Free Iraq

That NY Times article was scary as hell. It seems the "El Slavador option" has no doubt gone into effect.
 

To that opinionated young lady (hamula, I believe it was) that has been posted comments recently:

Sure some Shiites like yourself can just sit back and enjoy the American occupation because it is beneifting you and yours. But number two on the list in this post is crucial, esepcially the privatization part. Just wait until these new politicians sell the people of Iraq out to foriegn interests.

(You criticize Saddam's business practices but I bet you have no problem with one of your country's newest cabinet members - the international criminal Chalabi; You also criticize Saddam leaving the Shiites out of the government but that is exactly what your people are doing to the Sunnis right now - they are just not sitting back and taking it)

I predict you will be on the side of the insurgents sooner than you know - fighting for freedom from foreign oppression (be it militaristic, economic, moralistic, or whatever).
 

Yes we have seen many criticisms of new Iraqi government. But I admire them for coming forward to put their neck on the line. There are many things in the new Iraqi government that are good.

Firstly, they have been trying to reach out to and persuade the Sunnis to participate in the new government, but they can't forces them. What did Saddam's "government" do to encourage proportional representation? He murdered Iraq's Shiites and Kurds and made sure his "government" was either made up of Sunni, Tikriti family members and the odd token traitor Shiite. These few Shiites stood by whilst their colleagues slaughtered their own people.

Comparing Chalabi to Saddam is also a silly nonsense. Chalabi is no innocent angel and yes, he is finanicially crooked. But he has not starved and killed millions of children and women like Saddam. You have to accept that we all have stains on our souls. No-one is perfect. Does that mean that no-one should lead Iraq? You can dig dirt up on any human being on planet earth.

I can guarantee you now that the Shiites and Kurds will never, ever, ever join the insurgency because it is not in their interests. They now can look forward to a fair say in how Iraq evolves after decades of being tortured, murdered and raped by a Sunni, Tikriti dominated government. I am greatly pleased for my friends. God be with them, they will prevail.

THOSE THAT SOW IN TEARS SHALL REAP IN JOY

As for Saddam, he should remember

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND....this is proving true for him.
 

Hamid,
Chalabi is a snake, and you are making excuses for a snake. Period. Saddam was a snake, too. A snake is a snake. This is just my opinion.

As for you assertion that Shiites and Kurds will never, ever, ever join the insurgency, we will see...

(my argument is that one day sooner than yall might think, your interests will no longer be served by the people that are portending to serve your interests)

like i said, we will see...
 

It is amazing how fast in a democracy, the interests of the many, can turn into the interests of a few. We will see...
 

If it was not for Saddam, Iraq would still be a 2 bit stinkhole.

Iraq was more modern than any other ayrab state. Saddam's mistake was to trust the men with forked tongues. He got setup, first by the Saudi's under US leadership into attacking Iran and then to attacking Kuwait. And in the process wasting all that he had built up.

And we see how well the Kurds have done. Iraq is not the only country with Kurds.

And the Shiites as well, Like Lebanon is doing so great. And heck they got power in Iran and wow lookie at Iran, nukoolar power for everyone.

Saddam probably was insane when he did not figure out Jimmy the peace president sent in suicide bombers into Afghanistan to get the Russians to invade it and then say that the US would invade the middle-east for its oil.

Anyone reading history would have figured that they dont give an excuse for imperial action. They should at least erect a monument in Washington for all the service Saddam did for the imperials.
 

>I can guarantee you now that the Shiites and Kurds will never, ever, ever join the insurgency because it is not in their interests. They now can look forward to a fair say in how Iraq evolves after decades of being tortured, murdered and raped by a Sunni, Tikriti dominated government. I am greatly pleased for my friends. God be with them, they will prevail.

THOSE THAT SOW IN TEARS SHALL REAP IN JOY<

Do you get out much???
 

Bishop and Ampikle, your conjecture about the insurgency is futile and green. A sign that you know nothing of Iraq or how it functions or functioned.

The majority of Iraqis will never join the insurgency quite simply because it will never fulfill their needs. They will never fight alongside those who once tried to exterminate them. Sunni jihadis have attempted to create a civil war between Shiites and Sunnis and between Kurds and Arabs.

Know this: Shiite and Kurdish leaders linked with the government, are acutely aware of this threat and have been very smart in dealing with it. They urge restraint and discourage revenge. The Shias true leader is al Sistani and his authority is unassailable. With leaders like him to control the situation, the insurgency may aswell bash its head on a brick wall.

You think Iraq was not a black hole? Iraq was more modern than any other Arab country prior to 1980, but subsequently, Saddam decimated the country and did so as a result of his insecurity, barbarity and stupidity.
If he was dim enough to fall into the trap that you suggest was laid, then he should never have been leader in the first place.

Know this (you obviously do not): when it comes to national leadership, muscles and brutality are no substitute for intelligence, wisdom and foresight.

You think Chalabi is a snake like Saddam? Ask yourself this: would you rather be left in a room alone with Chalabi and friends? Or with Saddam and friends?

Would you rather leave your wife alone with Chalabi and friends or Saddam and friends?

There is massive difference amongst those that have done wrong. Comparing Chalabi to Saddam is like comparing a fraudster with a mass murderer and rapist.

Chalabi may be accused of financial impropriety and other odd unsubstantiated accusations but to be quite frank, he is no more crooked than the average businessman trying to make a few dollars.

I am sure Saddam would be flattered with your view of him. He'd also be delighted to know that those that support him are still as green and stupid as they were 30 years ago.