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The US's occupation of Iraq will see to it that the Lion of Babylon rises again .. سنـُبعـَث ُ من جَديد ، وإلى ضَـيـرِِهِـم
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Iraq's Nuclear Mirage ... سَراب السلاح النووي العراقي

Unrevealed Milestones in the Iraqi National Nuclear Program: 1981-1991

معالم وأحداث غير مكشوفة في البرنامج النووي الوطني العراقي 1981-1991

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005

The Beirut Symposium - Readying for a Liberated Iraq.....ندوة بيروت - مستقبل العراق بأيدي شعبه


Recognizing the mounting strength of the Iraqi Resistance and the looming departure of the defeated American-Anglo occupation forces from Iraq, the Centre for Arab Unity Studies organized a symposium on "The Future of Iraq" that was held in Beirut, Lebanon during July 25 - 28 , 2005. Its first related symposium was on "The Occupation of Iraq : Its Ramifications on the Arab world and Regionally and Internationally" that was held in Beirut during March 8 - 11, 2004.

While the first symposium dealt extensively with Iraq under the occupation discussing more than 20 scholarly papers that were published in a 1088 pages proceedings, the second symposium dealt with Iraq after the occupation.

108 Iraqi patriots (with about 40 PhD holders, and about half of the attendees came directly from Iraq) participated in the second symposium. They represented a wide spectrum of political parties, religious societies and independents. Their common denominator was their complete and unequivocal support for the Iraqi Resistance, the firm rejection of the occupiers' agenda for Iraq and the refusal to participate within the political guidelines set by Bremer's Orders** and Noah Feldman's vision of what they consider to be an "Iraqinized Occupation", including the sham "elections" of last February, the contorted and still-born "constitution" that is presently being conceived and the forming of a "sovereign Iraqi government" that is intentioned to serve the occupier's wishes.

In preparing for this second symposium, the Centre for Arab Unity Studies had asked highly qualified Iraqi experts in their field of specialization and with extensive professional experience to prepare papers in the following areas in order to serve as guiding posts for the patriotic government of Iraq that will take control of Iraq after its Liberation:

1 - The Constitution
2 - The law for a national elections committee
3 - The law for the elections of parliament members
4 - The law for forming societies and political parties
5 - The re-enactment of the reconstruction effort
6 - The oil industry and oil policy
7 - The Kurdish issue
8 - The reforming of the Iraqi army
9 - The media and the press
10 - Debts and reimbursements and reparations

During the first day of the symposium, the participants joined committees that discussed in detail the prepared papers and offered their comments on the topics 5 - 10 above. The first four topics were discussed by all present over the next day and a half in detail after reading verbatim important topics, such as the constitution. Many important comments and editions were offered, discussed and accepted or rejected in an exemplary debating fashion thanks to the firm, fair and experienced elucidations of the chair, Dr. Khair Al-Din Hassib, the Head of the Centre for Arab Unity Studies. Finally, the summaries of the discussions of the various committees that met on the first day were presented and rectified with additional comments and points.

The symposium ended with the participants' voted wish to have the Centre publish in its own name the final versions of the papers that would include the input of the participants and to distribute them over the Internet and inside Iraq. This is a clear message to the occupiers that there is an alternate Iraqi force that fully supports the Iraqi Resistance, that does not accept nor participate with the occupation and who is preparing for the considered future of a Liberated Iraq.

Dr. Hassib then invited those who wished to meet together to discuss the formation of a United National Front of parties, societies and independents who share the common belief in their support of the Iraqi Resistance and their struggle for the liberation of Iraq, to do so over the next day and a half. Dr. Hassib merely offered the administrative and secretarial services of the Centre for Arab Unity Studies but without its direct participation in these sessions. Nonetheless, the spirit of Dr. Hassib's firm, orderly and constructive debate prevailed and the discussions were open, frank and heated but civilized at points. A final declaration was discussed and agreed upon, and the consensus prevailed that an elected committee, whose members were returning to Iraq, would follow-up the intentions of the declaration under the umbrella of the Iraqi National Foundation Congress that already exists in Iraq. A second committee, whose members were Iraqis living abroad, was selected to promote the activities and disseminate news of the committee that is returning to Iraq in the mass media and the Internet. A web site will soon follow.

** In Arabic also, note that the expiry date for this CPA site is June 2006.
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نظراً لتأخري في الرجوع وإعداد ملاحظاتي عن الندوة ، فلقد سبقني آخرون في نقل ما شعرت به من دهشة وتساؤل عن الحملة الشديدة التي سبقت عقد هذه الندوة و من ثم القناعة بأهمية ما دار بها وما نتج عنها وعن تشكيل الجبهة الوطنية (علماً بأن البيان الختامي لمناقشة تشكيل الجبهة الوطنية في صيغته النهائية و بعد التداول المثمر حول نقاطه لم يصدر بعد). ولهذا، فإني سأكتفي، في الوقت الحاضر، بالإشارة الى المقالة الدالّة التي أعدها صباح المختار (لا قرابة مع صلاح المختار) والتي صدرت اليوم
مؤتمر بيروت نموذج للسلوك العراقي
August 1, 2005
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كما وتجدر الإشارة الى المُداخلة القيّمة للشيخ حسن الزركاني في توضيح موقف التيار الصدر، والصادر عن مكتب العلاقات الخارجية لمكتب الشهيد الصدر
August 5, 2005
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حول ندوة بيروت
صلاح عمر العلي
August 21, 2005
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عرض موجز لندوة "مستقبل العراق"ء
د. عبدالوهاب حميد رشيد ( وتعليق لمنذر الأعظمي)ء
August 22, 2005
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محاورة بين شوكت خزندار و د. عبد الحسين شعبان حول مؤتمر بيروت (ومواضيع سياسية أخرى)ء
August 25, 2005
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Vigil for Justice (on February 26, 2004) in front of the Freedom Monument (erected in 1960 by Jawad Salim Jawad), Liberation Square, Baghdad.
2004 02 26 Vigil for justice at Freedom monument, Baghdad

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I am somewhat perplexed by this statement: "Their common denominator was their complete and unequivocal support for the Iraqi Resistance"

Specific elements of this resistance have been killing their own people regardless of the whether the subject is a small baby or elderly person. Do they support that element of the resistance too? The religious nuts and the Ba'athists who are obviously mixed into this melting pot?

It says: "Half the attendees came directly from Iraq"

Does that mean that only half actually live in Iraq? If so, are the other half in any position to have a say in the future of Iraq? Surely the people who live there should be making the future for that country? Many of them have their PhDs? Does that give them a divine right to make the future, even if they don't live there?

and

"the firm rejection of the occupiers' agenda for Iraq and the refusal to participate within the political guidelines set by Bremer's Orders...including the sham "elections" of last February, the contorted and still-born "constitution" that is presently being conceived and the forming of a "sovereign Iraqi government" that is intentioned to serve the occupier's wishes"

But thousands of real Iraqi people did vote in those elections and they risked their life to do so. So these thousands, their lives and their views count for nothing?

It's fine to have meetings for Iraqi scholars in Beirut, but one wonders what their real intentions for Iraq are, and what lies underneath their actions. What really motivates these people?

I would like to know if any of these people held privileged positions under Saddam Hussein. If any did, maybe their motives and grudges will become more clear.
 
Well BR. The ex Iraqis (now citizens of other countries) could vote in Iraq elections, why can’t they discuss about the future of Iraq? Americans wanted that before. The reason that the meeting was held in Beirut was probably because security reasons. USA and GB can’t provide enough security for this kind of meetings held in Iraq. Astonishing isn’t it BR. Two years after the start of occupation. The other reason could be that USA doesn’t want to hear these kinds of opinions in Baghdad. Free speech and democracy you know. If you are worried about the motivations of some Iraqis why not be worried about the motivations of Americans in building Iraq’s democracy?

Americans are now very worried about Iraq’s “democracy” when it develops in a direction they do not want. Americans want a bad functioning USA indirectly dominated parliament which work is efficiently hindered with more or less insane minority rules. By establishing these kinds of rules the country is de facto pushed in three parts, because each block uses its strengths given by the “new system” in stead of real co-operation and compromise building. Now Kurds and Shias operate against Sunni. Soon Shias and Sunnis will operate against Kurds. A big mess.

Greece 1964-1974
"Fuck your Parliament and your Constitution,"
said the President of the United States (Lyndon B. Johnson from Texas)

USA with its Coca-Cola - Pepsi Cola democracy (two equal candidates) is hardly an example to any country in the aspect of building a democratic society from scratch.
 
SH

I never claimed that the US is anything to aspire to. You seem to assume an awful lot about people. If you cannot see the bad in both the former regime and the present-day situation then you are lost.

Johnson aside. Do you want to hear a real shocking quote?

Quote Ali Hassan al Majid (Saddam's chief enforcer and first cousin)

"I said I cannot let your village stay because I will attack it with chemical weapons. Then you and your family will die. You must leave right now. Because I cannot tell you the same day that I am going to attack with chemical weapons. I will kill them all with chemical weapons! Who is going to say anything? The international community? Fuck them! The international community and those who listen to them"

There are plenty more like him roaming Iraq and its neighbouring countries, waiting to regain control.

Just how many people at that meeting had wore a green Ba'ath uniform prior to March 2003? Maybe 1, maybe some of them, maybe the majority of them? Are they THAT different from what is on offer in Iraq at the moment? Maybe they are wolves in sheeps clothing?

I am saying that it is best to be cautious. They may offer no better way than Saddam, or those currently raping Iraq.
 
Simmo is that all you can find? A some quote made in bad taste by Johnson?

Meanwhile you can see the sort of things that Saddam's family and friends used to say (threaten). And there you are defending Saddam and his family when it is clear what they have been up to.
 
Dr. Khadduri,
Thank you for the link to Bremer's Orders. Imagine.
 
New U.S. death ray cooks enemies with microwaves

Isn't it nice to see how America still leads the world in some fields of technology?

Note the optimistic claims that this weapon "won't cause any permanent damage" (remember the similar claims about Agent Orange, or depleted uranium ammunition).

Also note how Raytheon, a long-standing U.S. military-industrial complex "leader", is out to make a killing on this one.

Of course, it's meant for deployment to Iraq.

That's how Americans win hearts and minds... by cooking them with microwaves.
 
Who is fighting in Iraq? PartI
Who is fighting in Iraq? PartII

"A final declaration was discussed and agreed upon"
Dr. Khadduri , It will be interesting to have an english translation of this declaration.
 
This is confusing.

They support the resistance; but some of the resistance are of bad and criminal nature. What is their definition of "resistance" and how do they decide what is legitimate resistance and in best interests of the Iraqi people? What kind of Iraqi people kill Iraqi children, women and young men?

Religious societies attended? I would have them banned and thrown out but I am secular and maybe secular people are in minority in Iraq. I suppose that is subjective.

If they have better solution to present problems then it would be interesting to hear them for sure.

Mr Imad maybe when you get back maybe you tell us more?
 
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I too look forward to more information
with regard to the Beirut conference,
and to seeing its proceedings made available via Internet. In particular,
the question of reparations seems to me to be entirely appropriate and urgent.
 
Are we presuming that the people at the Lebanon meeting are different in character to those now ruling Iraq? Are they any different from those that ruled Iraq prior to Gulf War 2003?
Is corruption deeply entrenched and accepted in Iraqi culture? If so, surely the people at this meeting will offer nothing new to what Iraq has presently or has had in the past? Are they wanting a return to the old Ba'athist methods? I am skeptical.
 
Mr Imad let us know when you are back from Beirut; it says on news that something bad happened today at Toronto airport. I hope you are OK
 
Thank you for the concern, Heidi
I came by way of London earlier that morning.
Fate, is what we call it, and do accept it, as it is beyond our control.

 
Mr Imad I am glad you are OK. I suppose what you say about fate is correct.
 
" . . . the discussions were open, frank and heated but civilized at points."
(Sounds like a collection of normal human beings!)

Stef, Thanks for your links. Have finally managed to read. Worthwhile.
 
“British Member of Parliament George Galloway says that a plan for the division of the Middle East is circulating in the corridors of power on both sides of the Atlantic.. . .In a recent interview, Galloway asserted that ministers and eminent figures in the British government are deliberating the partition of the Middle East, harking back to the colonial map-making in the first quarter of the 20th century that established the modern nation-states of the region. An Anglo-American war against Iraq, he tells me, could be the opening salvo in the break up of the region.” Of course, this configures nicely with the long-held Zionist plan to balkanize the Arab and Muslim world . . . an idea shared by the neocons. . . "
 
"The British foreign secretary has admitted that the presence of British and US troops in Iraq is fuelling the uprising there, and the Polish prime minister has said post-war nation-building efforts have 'failed totally'."
 
Evelyn
The correct emphasis is:
" . . . the discussions were open, frank and heated but civilized at points."
 
And, in the difference, a world of difference. Remarkable achievement.
 
You are welcome ,Evelyn.
Yes they are long post, but it is interesting to a little bit more who is Dr. Khair Al-Din Hassib.
 
Indeed, Stef. The biographical info. helps contextualize Dr. Khadduri's point on the "spirit of Dr. Hassib's firm, orderly and constructive debate."
 
Preempting Cheney. . . on Iran
 
"[A]s the neo-conservative 'Bush Doctrine' collapses in a swelling flood of blood and total failure . . . This president . . . does not know what death is. He hasn't the mind for it. You see him joking with the press, peering under the table for the WMDs he can't seem to find, you see him at rallies strutting up to the stage in shirt sleeves to the roar of the carefully screened crowd, smiling and waving, triumphal, a he-man. He does not mourn. He doesn't understand why he should mourn. He is satisfied during the course of a speech written for him to look solemn for a moment and speak of the brave young Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country."

"But you study him, . . . you look into his eyes and know he dissembles an emotion which he does not feel in the depths of his being because he has no capacity for it. He does not feel a personal responsibility for the thousand dead young men and women who wanted to be what they could be. They come to his desk not as youngsters with mothers and fathers or wives and children who will suffer to the end of their days a terribly torn fabric of familial relationships and the inconsolable remembrance of aborted life. They come to his desk as a political liability which is why the press is not permitted to photograph the arrival of their coffins from Iraq. How then can he mourn? To mourn is to express regret and he regrets nothing."

In Dallas this weekend, there will be a journalist who risked his life over and over to report the truth of Iraq from within. There will be a Marine who fought in Iraq and returned to organize against the war. There will be a mother whose sacrifice and sorrow is beyond description. There will be hundreds of veterans who have served in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and elsewhere, who stand now for peace and the end of the occupation.
 
The leader of the Free World (An audio-visual memory aid)
 
Remembering Srebrenica, thinking of Fallujah : "When 55 people died in the 7/7 London attack, Westerners and their allies were in arms condemning the crimes and demanding that the "perpetrators" be brought to justice for their crimes. However, when 128,000 innocent Iraqi men, women and children are murdered by the policy and violent actions of their Western leaders, the silence is deafening. The perpetrators of these war crimes were rewarded and re-elected to high office, thanks to powerful media distortions and blindfolded "moral values." There are no two minutes of silence for the mass slaughter of Iraqi children.

". . . Iraqis, who reject . . . colonial dictatorship, are labelled "insurgents." It is an old agenda of Western imperialism and has nothing to do with the ordinary Iraqi people. Its aim is to colonise Iraq and siphoned off its wealth into the bellies of US-Western corporations. It has been admirably rejected by the Iraqi people. Iraqis are universally united against the Occupation, and blame the Occupation forces for the continuing violence in their country."
 
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