In a response to a recent posting here on ‘Vice President’ Adil Abdul Mahdi Shubbar, "
With friends like these, who needs enemies?", one email response solicited a sign-post clarification on the evolving lava currents flowing down the volcano in Iraq.
The exchange involved life long friends, all PhD professionals with decades of expertise in their specializations.
Suffice it to label them Friend1, Friend2 and the Elder.
The chatter starts with Friend1 addressing the Elder but with yours truly in sight.
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Dear Elder,
Regrettably Imad, living in his Canadian cocoon, has lost his bearings and went a mile too far.
There is no need for this vilification of Adil. A similar statement would have been necessary about Saddam and sectarians who kill Iraqis every day thinking that they are marching to heaven. For Imad - A more intelligent approach to your view of political differences is necessary I think.
It is not all black and white!
Friend1
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Dear Elder
Intelligence is in the eyes of the beholder.
All the statements that I have posted on Adil are either stated by Adil himself, or what is reported about him. I did not write them, except to describe him as an occupier's puppet and expressing my regret to see his intimate handshake.
If Friend1 would find any defense of what he considers 'vilifications' of Adil, then Friend1’s 'statements' would be invited, and then 'intelligence' would be the judge.
As for Qamis Othman (Translation: the shirt of Othman, an Iraqi proverb connoting the continuous laying of a blame for a misdeed on somebody or some issue, no matter whether it truly applies or not), I wonder if Friend1 did read my book, with an open mind, after taking off his Sad Damn glasses, and see the extent of the bloodshed and the suffering brought upon Iraq by the occupation; the exact point that I decried and warned of even before the start of the invasion.
But perhaps Friend1 welcomes that.
And where does Adil fit in this, from his own statements?
This is not a mere political chit-chat.
It is the litmus test of who is a patriot.
All the best
Imad Khadduri
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I thought I would start with "Dear the Elder", then I thought poor Elder in the middle!
I don't agree with Imad's language because it does not help, but I agree with his sentiment.
What these people are doing in the name of shi'i suffering is inexcusable. Their alliance with Bush is not only immoral, but it is stupid and doomed. They have ended up behaving just like Saddam.
I had told Friend1 that those playing the shi'i sectarian card will be disappointed when the Americans find good strong sunni sectarian allies to play with. Now it is the Americans who have exposed the torture chambers, so it seems this process has started in earnest. I suppose their response will be more latum (translation: breast beating) which is what they are best at.
As for Adil, it is sad to see him sunk into this mire, and I think Imad had it just right when he pointed to the clasp of Bush's arm.
Best,
Friend2
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Dear Friend2,
I am sure that the Elder would not mind my inserting here his response to the above dialogue, as it is true and I would like to embark on my exposition with it as a basis, and culminating with Adil.
Dear Imad,
Iraq was handed on a plate of gold to the occupiers. There was no need for them to come if we had an intelligent or patriot ruler, instead of a psychopath dictator. What we have today is a result of that.
Regards
The Elder
Indeed, the tearing apart of the fabric of the Iraqi society by Saddam's follies and policies is undeniable. I had written to that effect before the invasion back in February 2002 (when I started writing my English version of the book, page 12):
"Compounded by a ruthless, self-aggrandizing despot that ruled with ever-increasing repression that was perpetrated by about eighteen Security and Intelligence organizations, the Iraqi people suffered immensely. Few Iraqi families have not seen at least a loved one die or imprisoned during Saddam’s ruthless reign of power.
These two repressive factors (The other was the wanton destruction of Iraq's civilian infrastructure through the sustenance of the Economic Sanctions), in addition to two wars, in the eighties and in 1991, had destroyed Iraq’s infrastructure, squandered the accumulated experience of its nation building that was laboriously catered for by its professional class since Iraq’s statehood in 1921 and shredded its social, educational, legal and economic fabric."
Yet, at the same time, I forewarned, and not for love or support of Saddam but for aching for Iraq, of the colossal black cloud of destruction that would result in the aftermath of the invasion (pages 224 and 225, from my rebuttal to friends - some are included in this email list - on why I do not curse Saddam every other line of my articles and interviews):
"... I ask for them to realize that the Americans are utterly lacking a viable plan for Iraq and the Iraqi people after they drop their hundreds of bombs and fire their destructive missiles at Iraq. This will lead to at least tens of thousands of dead Iraqis and the easy defeat of the tattered remains of the Iraqi army. Iraq and the Iraqi people will be in a state of free fall, dropping into a deeper abyss (emphasis as in original), with Turkey, Iran and Israel (with its own agenda against the Palestinians) all eyeing pieces of Iraqi flesh to bite off. The oil has already been marked.
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The coming war was not launched in the spur of the moment. It is an opportunity seized upon after September of 1991. Its seeds have been planted since the early nineties by a clique of American neoconservative right wing thinkers, with strong sympathies (and some, even ties) to Israeli interests. These thinkers engineered their plans for reshaping the Middle East through their work with the American Enterprise Institute, the Project for the New American Century, and other like-minded organizations.
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Despite fierce American media support, their arguments are being riddled with holes, yet the war crimes they plan on committing in Iraq will still take place.
My five articles, and the numerous TV and radio interviews, are solely intended to shred even further their flimsy arguments and expose the extent of the misinformation that is beamed to the American people and others to blind their vision of what is actually being enacted.
These neoconservatives will, sooner or later, be fully exposed and cast aside; hopefully they will appear in front of an international war tribunal, along with Saddam. The Iraqi people will resurrect”.
Finally, I would like to quote from the letter to the Iraqi Intelligence and Security agencies, which I had written before my escape from Iraq in 1998 and that was delivered to Al-Sahhaf after my escape (page 198):
"I shall stay outside my country for a limited time, but my love for Iraq will not die because I made sure that it is in the milk that was fed to my children.
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I will always remain that person who is ready to serve his country and willing to oblige its needs, in the field of my specialization. I wish to confirm to you that my tie to my country will not be severed no matter what distances and time might separate the two of us."May I again ask Friend1 on what grounds does he draw his ill-conclusions on my allegiances?
Elder, you yourself had correctly predicted, during the Spring of 2003, the political scenario of the freshly occupied Iraq in your article:
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الزلزال العراقي : الدروس والعبر
ربيع 2003
من الواضح أن تصور ما سيحدث في المستقبل المنظور صعب جدا . فأهمية الزلزال لا تكمن في طريقة حسم المعركة العسكرية فحسب، بل ايضا فيما حل في نفوس أهل البلد ووجدانهم . فمنهم من هو قابل بما يجري، لا بل متعاون معه؛ ومنهم من هو رافض ذلك رفضا قاطعا؛ ومنهم من لا يزال مذهولا جراء ما حدث؛ ومنهم من هو موافق على التعاون ويريد أن يصل الى سدة الحكم، لكن بشروط معينة. ومن المتوقع أن تقبل الأحزاب السياسية جميعها، من دون استثناء، ببقاء القوات الأجنبية الى حين الانتخابات العامة، هذا اذا قررت الحكومة الأميركية الانسحاب كليا حتى بعد تلك الفترة، أو قررت ابقاء قواعد عسكرية في البلد كما ذكر في الصحافة الاميركية ونفاه وزير الدفاع الاميركي .ء
يتوقع أيضا بروز قوى سياسية جديدة على الساحةالعراقية، الى جانب الأحزاب السياسية التي لها جذور وقواعد واسعة على الأرض الآن. لكن من غير الواضح حتى الآن ماهية هذه القوىالسياسية الجديدة، ومدى نفوذها في أوساط الراي العام العراقي: فهل ستعكس القوى الجديدة نواة مجتمع مدني جديد قائم على المؤسسات الحديثة ذات القاعدة الشعبية المتعددة الأطياف، والتي تلتقي على مشروع سياسي محدد، أم العودة أكثر فأكثر الى العشيرة والدين والطائفة والملة؟ ومن غير الواضح كذلك ما اذا سيتم فرز هذه القوىالسياسية الجديدة بطرق سلمية وحضارية، أم عن طريق الصراع المسلح ، وبالذات تحت لواء الاحتلال الاجنبي.ء
ان عدم وضوح الصورة المستقبلية نابع من أننا أمام واقع جديد في طور التكوين ، واقع عسكري أجنبي قوي في مرحلة سقط فيها النظام السياسي العربي بمختلف أنواعه ومشاربه . هناك قيم ومباديء لا يمكن التخلي عنها ، مثل رفض الاحتلال والدفاع عن سيادة البلد. ء
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(Translation:
The Iraqi Earthquake: The lessons and the implications
Spring 2003
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It is obvious that any prediction on what will happen in the near future is very difficult. The relevance of the earthquake is not in the military resolution of the conflict itself, but what has transpired in the minds and spirits of the Iraqi people themselves. Some accept what is being enacted, and are even collaborating with it. Some decry and oppose it categorically. Some are still dump founded and confused by what is unfolding. Some agree to cooperate aiming to garnering some official positions, but with certain conditions.
It is anticipated that all political parties, without exception, will agree to the stationing of foreign forces in Iraq until the general election; that is even if the American government would even decide to withdraw completely from Iraq after that period, or has decided to build some military bases in Iraq, as mentioned in the American press and denied by Rumsfeld.
New political forces are also expected to appear on the Iraqi arena, in addition to the political parties that have deep roots in Iraq and large support on the ground at the moment. But what is not clear is what would be the nature of these new political forces, and the extent of their influence in the Iraqi general public. Will these new forces nurture the nucleus of a new secular society to be built upon modern institutions that would reflect the wide spectrum of the Iraqi people that would agree on a unified political agenda, or shall they reflect an accelerated regression to tribal, sectarian and religious trenches?
It is also not clear whether the distinctions between these new political forces would evolve in peaceful and civilized pathways, or resolved through armed struggle, and particularly under the banner of fighting the foreign occupation.
…. The lack of clarity about the immediate future emanates from the fact that we are facing a new situation that is in a state of formation, the reality of the a militarily strong foreign occupation in a period which has witnessed the complete asunder and breakdown of the whole spectrum of the Arabic political will.
There are, however, certain values and principles that can not be discarded, such as the rejection of the occupation and the defense of the sovereignty of the country".And even more clarifying is your (I am still addressing the Elder) statement in the article “The Coming Agenda” that was published in the Al-Nahar Lebanese daily during the first week of March, 2003 on the eve of the invasion:
"Despite the welter of explanations and pretexts relating to the nature of the forthcoming foreign military rule in Iraq , there will be only one outcome. From that moment on, the operative words will be: resistance to foreign occupation, with all that this implies."I was stating the same thing, though in a more descriptive 'language', as Friend2 complains, in my interviews before the invasion when I predicted that 'Rivers of Blood will Flow', to the consternation of some of the interviewers who implied that I was 'threatening' the American people; and on two occasions they terminated the interview abruptly and sent the RCMP to investigate me upon the request of 'American Intelligence' who claimed to have received complaints from some American listeners. I do submit that language does wither in the face of the blood that has been and will be shed in Iraq, except for those addicted to pontification. Force is the only way to confront the force of the occupiers (the initial illegal 'shock and awe' invasion and the following
160 'operations', and counting), and as the Resistance is irrefutably proving. I believe this is the 'implication' that you alluded to above.
In contrast to the above declared positions, I am trying to recall Friend1's arguments, and positions, over the past six years, whenever we met. Almost invariably, when we would touch any issue relating to Iraq's situation, Friend1 would immediately slam on the brakes and skid uncontrollably into an anti-Saddam speech, only to crash into a short-change vision of how to move forward.
It is alluring for some to keep repeating the mantra of 'spreading democracy' in Iraq and other Arab states. It should be noted that the only 'democracy' that the Americans, and the Israelis, want (and allow) for Iraq, Palestine and for other Arab states are governments that they themselves support (and in more ways than are obvious), and that these governments do effectively police and 'control' their people for the interests of the American and Israeli agendas; not a government that 'represents' its people.
I have rarely heard the word 'justice' being invoked to what has happened and is happening in Iraq and Palestine, but which the Resistance in Iraq and in Palestine manifest through their struggle. If you lived under Saddam, even the thought of this word (justice) was an anathema that was severely punished once it was sensed, except for the many expatriates living comfortably abroad. Now that they have returned under the protection of the occupiers and are serving their interests, they have morphed into that brutal role. Which brings us to Adil.
My first inkling of Adil's position on Iraqi oil was in
December 27, 2004.
"The government, which is supposed to be replaced after elections scheduled for January, will also pass a new law that will further open Iraq's huge oil reserves to foreign companies. U.S. firms are expected to gain the lion's share of access in a process estimated to be worth billions of dollars. "So I think this is very promising to the American investors and to American enterprises, certainly to oil companies," Abdel Mahdi said at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on Tuesday."He repeated the same to the same audience on February 11, 2005:
"Abdel Mahdi .. told the National Press Club in Washington in so many words, and to the delight of corporate US oil majors, that a new oil law would privatize Iraq's oil industry. The new law would allow investment in both downstream and "maybe even upstream" operations, meaning foreigners could become de facto owners of Iraqi oilfields. No wonder Mahdi has been touted by US corporate media as the next best candidate for prime minister".
By what authority is Adil promising
Iraq's oil to the US companies?
Elder, you have known Adil intimately for five decades now. From your occasional meetings and contacts with Adil over the past two decades at his Paris exile, and as he changed his political colours, I wonder when was the first time that you recognized Adil's generous position on Iraq's oil? That would be indeed revealing.
As for Adil's position on 'terrorists', I am reminded of my meeting with him in Paris in 1966 when he tried very hard to convince me to drop my PhD program and to return to Iraq to join the 'revolutionaries' of the Mao-bent Communist faction, that he then fully supported, as they were waging a 'guerilla war of liberation' against whoever at the time. Now,
"Abdul Mahdi had this to say about Fallujah, the city that was obliterated by the U.S. armed forces a year ago. "It is one of the most peaceful areas in Iraq. I don't know whether the people are happy or not. But it is one of the most peaceful cities."Is this now the 'peace' that we aspire for Western Iraq under Adil's vision?
"This week marks the one year anniversary of the barbarous and criminal US assault on Fallujah in which, according to "Iraqi NGO's and medical workers…between 4,000 and 6,000" mostly civilians were killed. In addition, "36,000 of the city's 50,000 homes were destroyed, along with 60 schools and 65 mosques and shrines," and up to "200,000 residents were forced to flee, creating a refugee population the size of Tacoma." Creating a wasteland is a form of "collective punishment" and is a war crime. The leadership responsible for the wasting of Fallujah has yet to be held accountable." Wasting Fallujah .
I had previously used this metaphor for Iraq's approaching calamity. Iraq is like an antique vase, deeply fractured all over but was still held together, before the occupation, by a tight metal ring around the neck of the vase, meaning Saddam and his Intelligence and Security. Bush was going to fire a bullet into that vase which would shatter the whole structure, and nobody would be able to predict where the pieces will fall. But we, the Iraqis, will rebuild Iraq. We have done it several times before. However, this time, we will not be easily forgetting the injustice of what occurred, who incurred it and we shall not be forgetting to exact retribution, for generations to come. Mark my words.
I was about to end here when I received this follow-up email from Friend1, which will be appropriate to add for completeness sake and for the tact that is now posited:
Dear Imad,
I once again repeat that you have gone more than a mile too far; two miles this time!
Knowing how super-charged you tend to become, I have some sympathy to your condition of isolation. However, your language is unacceptable I am afraid. The people you are associating your "good" sentiments with are unfortunately those who maim women and children and kill people who are poor and those seeking work (e.g Khadimiyah Mustar) or those traveling South in Garage Al Nahda and so forth. Unfortunately, "Paradise" may be littered with so many fools who create hell on earth like that imbecile Sajida who did not have more than 6th grade education and did not know what "Fitna" is when asked by Jordanians. The "monster" we should never forget is going to be on trial next Monday and I guess his supporters, including some intelligent people , will try to make this megalomaniac a hero again. To me, he is "the monster".
I hope Imad that you would one day condemn those who blow up innocent Iraqis under false pretexts of Moqawamat AlMuhtal (translation: resisting the occupier) hoping to seize our people's hearts once more. This will not happen as our people have been maimed for too long. It is time that honest people look to the future of their country and how to minimize its losses.
That Adil should shake hands with Bush and get 4 billion $ in debt relief in return is called diplomacy and that diplomacy will one day get Iraq into real independence, including economic relief from our 125 billion debt that Saddam and his party bequeathed to our poor people through their muzaidat (translation: bidding with slogans) ! I have little doubt that their cash balances are part of the reason we hold so much debt.I guess your mind is fixed once more!!
It is after all black and white: isn't it?
Regards to your wife and to my good friend the Elder. Unlike Imad, I am a democrat and can listen to his diatribes with a cool head.
Friend1Pushing furiously on his brakes, he again slams into his obsession, the 'monster'.
For the first time, however, I see a glimmer of Friend1's political thought, namely,
Adil's "diplomacy that will one day get Iraq into real independence". How the neocons do applaud, especially also after Chalabi's recent round of visitations to their major 'think-tanks'. Servicing them is to be Iraq's 'real independence'. Elder, I still believe in your statement:
"the operative words will be: resistance to foreign occupation, with all that this implies." Obviously, I doubt whether Friend1 does.
Now, what does
"all that this implies" mean?
Friend1 has surely some grasp of CIA history and their
Phoenix and Salvador atrocities that, with their locally trained militias, had led to the death of tens of thousands in Vietnam and Salvador. Even before the start of the invasion, Alawi visited CIA's headquarters in Langley and offered his cooperation to similar CIA operations in Iraq,
the 'apparent' results of which I have already posted.
"Both Robert Dreyfus and Seymour Hersh affirm that Allawi, working with then CIA chief George Tenet, started building up a secret death squad division similar to those operated by the Americans in Vietnam in 1968 as part of the notorious Operation Phoenix. The budget for these "security" operations run by Allawi is a most princely $3 billion, taken from the $87 billion voted by Congress for "reconstruction". These funds are laundered to Allawi's security apparatus via the so-called American Special Air Forces in Iraq. The basic personnel of this outfit is 275 CIA officers plus a handful of former Iraqi intelligence officers who, led by a renegade officer, Ibrahim AlJanabi are now working with the Americans. The outlines of this force were laid down in January 2003 when Allawi visited CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. It seems Allawi received further instructions at that visit for soon afterward he started writing copious articles that were duly published in the US press (Washington Post, New York Times and Wall Street Journal) and one Arabian Gulf region newspaper (Emirates based AlEtihad). The main thrust of these articles was to praise US security and intelligence organisations and support their operations in Iraq against "terrorism" - the word Allawi uses to describe virtually all armed resistance in Iraq." .
(By the way, the first
'political kidnapping' in Iraq took place in 1962 by Adil and Allawi, both staunch Ba'athist at the time. They kidnapped the Medical University Dean because he refused to declare a holiday on a Finals test day to accommodate a Ba'athist demonstration.
An Update: Now, in an abrupt change of tack and with tongue in cheek,
'People are doing the same as [in] Saddam's time and worse,' Ayad Allawi told The Observer. 'It is an appropriate comparison. People are remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same things.').
Except when you read it on the internet, it’s nothing like seeing scenes of it on television.
They showed the corpses and the family members- an elderly woman wailing and clawing at her face and hair and screaming that soldiers from the Ministry of Interior had killed her sons. They shot them in front of their mother, wives and children… Even when they slaughter sheep, they take them away from the fold so that the other sheep aren’t terrorized by the scene.
In war, you think the unthinkable. You imagine the unimaginable. When you can’t get to sleep at night, your mind wanders to cover various possibilities. Trying to guess and determine the future of a war-torn nation is nearly impossible, so your mind focuses on the more tangible- friends… Near and distant relations.
I think that during these last two and a half years, every single Iraqi inside of Iraq has considered the possibility of losing one or more people in the family. I try to imagine losing the people I love most in the world- whether it’s the possibility of having them buried under the rubble… or the possibility of having them brutally murdered by extremists… or blown to bits by a car bomb… or abducted for ransom… or brutally shot at a checkpoint. All disturbing possibilities.
I try to imagine what would happen to me, personally, should this occur. How long would it take for the need for revenge to settle in? How long would it take to be recruited by someone who looks for people who have nothing to lose? People who lost it all to one blow. What I think the world doesn’t understand is that people don’t become suicide bombers because- like the world is told- they get seventy or however many virgins in paradise. People become suicide bombers because it is a vengeful end to a life no longer worth living- a life probably violently stripped of its humanity by a local terrorist- or a foreign soldier.
I hate suicide bombers. I hate the way my heart beats chaotically every time I pass by a suspicious-looking car- and every car looks suspicious these days. I hate the way Sunni mosques and Shia mosques are being targeted right and left. I hate seeing the bodies pile up in hospitals, teeth clenched in pain, wailing men and women…
But I completely understand how people get there."
When it is a matter of a war crime being committed against my country and many tens of thousands of Iraqis "wasted", yes, it is white and black.
Is it that grey to you, Friend1?
Before you slam on your brakes, refer to 'justice' above.
Imad Khadduri
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PS: I received this email from yet another Friend, which I thought might put the final touches to the above discourse:
"Dear Imad
Perhaps for brevity sake, you appear to have missed clarifying a point that I have heard you elaborate about in a previous conversation with you.
Friend1 takes sanctity in the fact that Adil “should shake hands with Bush and get 4 billion $ debt relief in return for, is called diplomacy and that diplomacy will one day get Iraq into real independence, including economic relief from our 125 billion debt that Saddam and his party bequeathed to our poor people through their muzaidat (translation: bidding with slogans) !”
So the whole crisis in Iraq now is a matter of the "monsters' " debt? and paying back Iraq’s debt is a guarantee “for real independence”?
I don’t know who your Friend1 works for, but his appraisal of Iraq’s quandary is the flimsiest that I have heard.
Would your Friend1 consider the following scenario: that the occupiers will soon be kicked out of Iraq and by (civilized) international norms they will have to compensate Iraq and the Iraqi people for the costs of their illegal occupation, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Isn’t that what Kuwait and Iran still demand from Iraq? Isn’t that what is done for German Jews, Lockerbie victims (to the tune of billions) and several American relatives of Israelis killed by Palestinian ‘suicide bombers’? Or is ‘Corporate’ debt more sacrosanct? Once Iraq is fairly treated in this matter, it might then settle the ‘debts’ of the ‘monster’, and save Adil a lot of stooping and Friend1 a lot of mopping.
I just noticed Abu Hassan’s article on Col. Ted Westhusing in the Comments field. How appropriate here is Evelyn’s comment to it: “Regarding the psychologist, I note: "Westhusing struggled with the idea that monetary values could outweigh moral ones in war. This, she said, was a flaw." I wonder!!! ”
Between the corruption that Bremer spawned in Iraq and Friend1’s premise of Adil’s ulterior motive (which is probably what Adil himself flaunts about), your title “with friends like these, who needs enemies” does seem relevant."
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Sequel:
Elder/Friend2
I do not have Imad's address on my Lotus Notes. Please forward it to him and I do hope that he reads its meaning carefully and puts it in his Abu Tammam website as well.
Hopefully, this fits as political black and white as well !
Friend1
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I have sent this to Imad with your comment, but I really do not understand why you are so interested in it.
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I think that one of the biggest crimes of the occupation is how they are confused and are confusing issues of guilt and punishment, with the result of destroying any healing process. There were good examples of dealing with the aftermath of a vicious dictatorships and they were discussed by the UN and others; but these were discarded, probably for unsavoury political purposes.
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I do not believe it is possible for Saddam to have a meaningful trial, but the bizarre situation is that he is treated with such respect and accorded all his formal rights, while the people in the streets and in their homes are humiliated and viciously attacked by the same authorities in classic Saddam style.
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This is a disgraceful soap [cheap TV show], not justice.
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Can the TRUTH of those 35 years be reduced to whether he actually ordered the murder of people in Dujail or whether he only ordered an investigation?
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I am really amazed how uncritical you have become. This is a power game that is exercised over the minds and emotions of people.
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Aside from all this, I would be interested to know whether this Iraq Centre for Research & Strategic Studies has done any serious research, and how it is funded. It takes all sorts.
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Friend2