. "BBC Afghanistan correspondent Ian Pannell, granted rare access to the main US Air Force targeting base at an undisclosed location in the Middle East, spent a day looking at how decisions are made about where to attack and when. It is the centre of gravity for all air operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is home to some 8,000 military personnel. We are told that we are the first foreign journalists to be allowed inside the top secret operations room, but we are not allowed to say where we are or take any recording equipment inside. "It is frustrating because we take a large effort to avoid civilian casualties," says Col Gary Brown, the judge advocate for the US Air Force Combined Air and Space Operations Centre. ... Unfortunately, sometimes the target is missed. Thousands of innocent people have died in Afghanistan since the US-led war in 2001. The US wants to show how much effort it makes to avoid civilian casualties. The vast majority have been at the hands of the Taleban. But Human Rights Watch has reported that in the past three years, civilian deaths from US and Nato air-strikes have tripled." Inside US hub for Afghan air strikes November 29, 2008
Where is this main killinig station for Iraq and Afghanistan? Does anyone know?
How 'brave' can you get sitting in a hidden place and killing people remotley, many of them children and women?
"In the heat of battle, their minds clouded by fear, anger or vengefulness, even the best-trained soldiers can act in ways that violate the Geneva Conventions or battlefield rules of engagement. Now some researchers suggest that robots could do better. ... Many of the drones in Iraq and Afghanistan are operated from a command post in Nevada. Dr. Arkin is talking about true robots operating autonomously, on their own. ... In a report to the Army last year, Dr. Arkin described some of the potential benefits of autonomous fighting robots. For one thing, they can be designed without an instinct for self-preservation and, as a result, no tendency to lash out in fear. They can be built without anger or recklessness, Dr. Arkin wrote, and they can be made invulnerable to what he called “the psychological problem of ‘scenario fulfillment,’ ” which causes people to absorb new information more easily if it agrees with their pre-existing ideas. ... But, Dr. Allen added in an interview, “Is it possible to build systems that pay attention to things that matter ethically? Yes.”" A Soldier, Taking Orders From Its Ethical Judgment CenterNovember 24, 2008
Ethically, can you court martial a robot for violating the Geneva Convention?
On second thought, ignore the Geneva Convention, just as the terrorists do. Bush, his army and his cohorts have already done so.
The robots will not experience Post Traumatic Syndrome. Therefore, they will not be a drain on the medical services at the Veterans' Administration. Think of the savings to the taxpayers. As for the Geneva Conventions, ancient history. Who cares. Sorry, world.
Unfortunately, Americans should care, though not for any pointless moralistic reasons. You see, one advantage of automated killing is that it will make it easier for them to kill us as well. And they will. And are.
Justice needs to be served in 2009: We are nearing the end of what could arguably be called a reign of terror instigated by the ruling oligarchy in Washington, sustained by a supine Congress and which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. Unilateral War, indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas, torture, detention camps, perversion of Justice and the abrogation of almost every international treaty regarding human rights have been carried out in the name of the "War on Terror". Who's going to prison ?
Imad, I have read some time ago that the "killing" command center is not far from where you are, in Qatar where the US have located their war nerve center. How do the guys feel when their kill electronically?? . NOTHING, apparently the IT geeks have trained and grown up on computer games where extermination is just a bleep asnd flash on the screen. This has officially came out during a joint investigation a few years back when such a geek piloting an F16 blew up a helicopter carrying Turkey's top brass who where somewhere in Kurdistan. The geek said, he sent an IFF signal identify friend or foe, and since he got no reply within a reasonable time he let go his missiles. The sick part of it, is that the Turkish helicopter pilot for easons of secrecy and added protection was not allowed to respond to the "electronic interrogation". The bastards have grown up on games that treat destruction as a normal happening. I thuoght I would share this with you. regards,